Chinese democracy

cómo será el dichoso disco que ni sus fans dicen este grupo es mio!

debe haber sido como cuando Ridley Scott después de hacer Los Duelistas, Blade Runner y Alien se descolgó con Legend

El disco está bastante bien y tiene verdaderos temazos como "Better", "Street Of Dreams" o "Sorry" por citar sólo tres ejemplos.

pues me alegro es que esto parecía el bajón tras un gol anulado

Algún link? Yo también he caido!!

Bueno, ya he escuchado el disco algunas veces y mi veredicto es que es bueno, pero sin exagerar.

Además Axl se ha apartado del hard rock y el blues rock para ir directamente al metal. Incluso en "There Was a Time", tanto la voz como las guitarras me recuerdan a Megadeth.

He tenido el vinilo entre mis manos...creo que me lo acabare comprando....

Subid el disco mamones! Yo también lo quiero!

Yo me lo he bajado de aquí: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=LPKZUIM4
El pass es: chilewarez.org

kikosmagic escribió:

Yo me lo he bajado de aquí: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=LPKZUIM4
El pass es: chilewarez.org

Eres el amo. Gracias mil

A mí estos me han parecido siempre unos pesados, aunque el AFD sea un disco acojonantemente bueno... En fin, que iba dispuestísimo a echarme unas risas con el "Chinese Democracy" (ha sido de chiste lo que han tardado en sacarlo y la cantidad de grupos que se han reído de ellos durante todos estos años)... Y al final resulta que es un disco bastante digno de Metal. No me molesta ni Axel...
Espero que les vaya bien y vendan muchas entradas y discos, aunque sea entre los nostálgicos (s lo merecen bastante más que mercenarios como The Police).

Eh, no está mal el puto disco. Tantas malas críticas que veo

churro escribió:

a borope se le han agotado los adjetivos pues menudo rollo

No he escuchado absolutamente nada que no sea este disco desde el viernes pasado. Empiezo a paladearlo bien, a apreciar matices que no había captado las primeras escuchas... y efectivamente:

Chinese Democracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Discografía de Led Zeppelin

borope escribió:

churro escribió:

a borope se le han agotado los adjetivos pues menudo rollo

No he escuchado absolutamente nada que no sea este disco desde el viernes pasado. Empiezo a paladearlo bien, a apreciar matices que no había captado las primeras escuchas... y efectivamente:

Chinese Democracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Discografía de Led Zeppelin

weeeeee ha welto !!! Ya me empiezan a entrar otra vez las ganas de escucharlo

SEBASTIAN BACH Says 'Chinese Democracy' Is 'The Definition Of Great Rock 'N' Roll' - Nov. 26, 2008

Former SKID ROW frontman Sebastian Bach, who spent much of 2006 and 2007 touring as the support act for GUNS N' ROSES, has issued the following update:

"Let's talk audio here. Just like you and the rest of the planet, since Sunday I have spent every waking moment I can listening to 'Chinese Democracy'. Recently I purchased a brand new turntable, partly because it has a USB cord on the back so you can make MP3s of your albums. Funny thing, I have not made one MP3 yet since I bought it. Fact is, any ear can hear that albums sound far richer, clearer and more natural by far than mp3's and even standard CDs. Once I started listening to my albums again, the only use I now have for MP3s is their portability. It's definitely cool to carry your whole collection around in your pocket, but as far as sound goes, analog whups digital's ass, hands down, no contest.

"Which leads me to 'Chinese Democracy'. Picked up the 180-gram vinyl double album and the CD as well for the car. This is the first brand new album I have bought in over 15 years, for sure, possibly 20 years. All I can say is, we as music fans have lost a lot with the so-called (premature? one can only hope) 'demise' of the LP. As soon as I ran my fingernail down the side, splitting the cellophane and opened the gatefold sleeve, I knew I was in for a full-on rock'n'roll 'experience' getting into this LP. I pulled out disc 1 and was immediately struck by how 'heavy' this vinyl was. It's like my dad's old original copy of 'Led Zeppelin 2'. Not flimsy, lightweight vinyl like records became in the late '80s. 'Chinese Democracy' is a heavy, thick 'platter' of a record. I couldn't wait to crank it.

"As soon as I dropped the needle on 'Chinese Democracy', I was captivated by the sound of this record and the thought, talent, and care put into this piece of art from all involved. The power, clarity, separation and production of this music is nothing short of incredible. As loud as I want, I can still hear the vocals, guitars and everything else perfectly clear, with the bass rumbling my guts (and below) just like it should. When Axl rips into the line 'even with an iron fist' in the first song, the blood in my veins starts to boil and the intensity does not let up until the end of side four. What I hear on this record is unbelievable pathos, 100% of Axl's heart and soul on record for all of us to hear. When he sings a song such as 'Street Of Dreams', it's like Janis Joplin at her best, with Quincy Jones' quote of 'melody is king' operating in full effect. The melodies on this record rip my heart out. To hear them sung by the beautiful/deadly instrument that is Axl Rose's voice is something that is to me, truly special, not to mention really cool to own and be able to blast 'on stun' whenever I choose. Four times today so far, but who's counting.

"I cannot stop listening to this record. 'Scraped', 'Riad N' The Bedouins', 'Street Of Dreams', 'IRS', everytime I listen I have a new favorite. Brain, Bumblefoot, Robin Finck, everyone on the record played their asses off; the production is stellar; I haven't even got to the lyrics, still too blown away by the sheer sound to tackle the words.... yet! The album is, above all: Original. Heartfelt. Without Compromise. How many records can you honestly describe in that way today? This is like nothing I have ever heard. And I can't wait to hear it again. Which is, to me, the definition of great rock'n'roll."

Juas, juas, juas.. Me meo.... Axl demanda a Dr. Pepper por no cumplir con su promesa de regalar un refresco a cada americano. Con un par!!!!

Ese es mi AXL!!!!!!

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3iac81cb9ace3320f89f3267e4edc67974

borope escribió:

churro escribió:

a borope se le han agotado los adjetivos pues menudo rollo

No he escuchado absolutamente nada que no sea este disco desde el viernes pasado. Empiezo a paladearlo bien, a apreciar matices que no había captado las primeras escuchas... y efectivamente:

Chinese Democracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Discografía de Led Zeppelin

Te has pasado dos pueblos compañero, ya le gustaria al axl este dar el conciertazo que dieron los otros.

Un saludo y a disfrutar

maroki¨ escribió:

borope escribió:

churro escribió:

a borope se le han agotado los adjetivos pues menudo rollo

No he escuchado absolutamente nada que no sea este disco desde el viernes pasado. Empiezo a paladearlo bien, a apreciar matices que no había captado las primeras escuchas... y efectivamente:

Chinese Democracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Discografía de Led Zeppelin

Te has pasado dos pueblos compañero, ya le gustaria al axl este dar el conciertazo que dieron los otros.

Un saludo y a disfrutar

No hablaba de directos.

There Was a Time gana cada minuto. Igual que Prostitute, posiblemente el mejor final de ningún disco que jamás haya escuchado.

ALELUYAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! La industria musical se congratula del sonido de Chinese Democracy, uno de lso pocos (sino el único) gran disco de los últimos 20 años que no sufre de la famosa sobresaturación de sonido, y esperan que sea una vuelyta a las producciones cuidadas y no saturadas de distorsión y ruido de las que nuestros disfrutaban hace años.

http://mastering-media.blogspot.com/2008/11/loudness-wars-are-over-if-you-want-it.html


The Loudness Wars are over. The tide has turned. The massive backlash against the crushed, distorted sound of Metallica's Death Magnetic has had exactly the impact we all wanted.

Want proof ? Guns 'n' Roses' new CD, "Chinese Democracy", has been mastered by industry legend Bob Ludwig, who offered the label three different masters, and they chose the most dynamic version.


In an article on his website, Bob says


I was floored when I heard they decided to go with my full dynamics version and the loudness-for-loudness-sake versions be damned.


and goes on to explain:


I think the fan and press backlash against the recent heavily compressed recordings finally set the context for someone to take a stand and return to putting music and dynamics above sheer level...


...I’m hoping that Chinese Democracy will mark the beginning of people returning to sane levels and musicality triumphing over distortion and grunge. I have already seen a new awareness and appreciation for quality from some other producers, I pray it is the end of the level wars.


Bob isn't the only one to see a change, though. Mastering engineers have been commenting on the Gearslutz Mastering forum and elsewhere that since the publicity surrounding the release of "Death Magnetic" more and more people are asking


"Please don't do a 'Metallica' on my record"


I've seen it myself too - recently I called a long-time customer to suggest that his latest CD would sound better with a few dBs more headroom - I said "I realise you'll probably disagree with this, but in my opinion it's too loud" - and he replied "I know" !


That had never happened before.


But it will happen more and more, from now on. Despite Metallica's unconvincing insistence that they are happy with the way Rick Rubin produced "Death Magnetic", over 80% of fans responding to a poll on their forums think that it should be remixed. Over 18,000 people have signed the online petition. Only a handful of the 280,000 who have viewed the YouTube comparison video say they prefer the CD version.


And what about "Chinese Democracy" ? One of the most expensive and anticipated rock albums in recent years ? Against all expectations, it has been produced and mastered with dynamics, punch and power. The average A-weighted RMS loudness is around -16 dBFS, and as a result it "jumps out of the speakers" at you in a way that "Death Magnetic" never will. Check out a preview of the first track on Last.fm - listen to the way the guitars pile in at 1'26" and then again at 2'10" and then again at 3'36" - you just can't achieve that kind of buzz and build with an RMS of -4 dB.


Here are some predictions for "Chinese Democracy":
It will sell by the bucket-load (head?!) even though it hasn't been smashed to hell
No-one will complain that it's too quiet
It will sound fantastic (and loud) on the radio, because it's dynamic and punchy
No-one will start a petition to have a crushed and distorted re-release made
Hats off to Bob and the team behind Guns 'n' Roses, and here's to a future of better-sounding music.

mariousera escribió:

mariousera escribió:

there was a time es un temazo, menudo subidón de agudos se pega con la nariz el cabrón, ni los de medina azahara en sus mejores tiempos

Mario, eres la puta hostia tío. Te quiero. Aunque la comparación con Medina Azhara casi te cuesta una tarjeta amarilla.

lo de medina azahara era por los gallos, no more

Sebastian Bach acabo tocando en la banda que montaban en Las Chicas Gilmore, eso lo dice todo sobre el.

homeboy escribió:

Sebastian Bach acabo tocando en la banda que montaban en Las Chicas Gilmore, eso lo dice todo sobre el.

Baz es bastante lelo, sin duda, y estuvo desorientado a principios de este nuevo siglo. Hizo de Jesucristo en Broadway unas temporadas, pero ha vuelto y no creo que me puedas decir que Angel Down no tiene temazos. Hoy en día Baz se puede comer en el escenario a la mayoría de cantantes que conozco.

borope escribió:

homeboy escribió:

Sebastian Bach acabo tocando en la banda que montaban en Las Chicas Gilmore, eso lo dice todo sobre el.

Baz es bastante lelo, sin duda, y estuvo desorientado a principios de este nuevo siglo. Hizo de Jesucristo en Broadway unas temporadas, pero ha vuelto y no creo que me puedas decir que Angel Down no tiene temazos. Hoy en día Baz se puede comer en el escenario a la mayoría de cantantes que conozco.

No lo he escuchado...Pero Skid Row siempre me han parecido una mierda.